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  • #46
    Originally posted by Ironhead View Post
    It also doesn't really make a ton of sense to compare a fully race prepped car to a stock model off the showroom floor.

    Imagine what a modern DTM M3/M4 would do to a DTM E30M3, for example.
    Well, with the DTM E30, for me part of the coolness is that it is based on a production chassis. The DTM M4 probably shares a few fasteners with the roadgoing M4 but the chassis is full monocoque carbon composite, the suspension is pushrod in front and rear, and the curb weight is sub 2500 lbs with driver.

    There was a video a few years ago with the E92 DTM car and the E30 M3 and the E30 was given a 23 second head start and I don't remember how many laps it took to overtake but it probably wasn't that many.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68TDr3GjBZs

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    • #47
      Yeah...I think modern DTM cars are more sophisticated than F1 cars, particularly in terms of electronics.

      That is one of the main reason I think most modern racing sucks. The links to the actual productions cars are non-existent.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Ironhead View Post
        Yeah...I think modern DTM cars are more sophisticated than F1 cars, particularly in terms of electronics.

        That is one of the main reason I think most modern racing sucks. The links to the actual productions cars are non-existent.

        except maybe production based racing that uses factory body in whites. the link between street and race car is very close

        https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/A...ubsport/613403

        think porsche gt4 cayman/gt3 911 or miata global mx5 cup

        good track cars still hold the same principles today as they did 32 years ago when the e30 m3 was introduced, namely light and nimble with good power
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        • #49
          Originally posted by bmw_e30 View Post


          except maybe production based racing that uses factory body in whites. the link between street and race car is very close

          https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/A...ubsport/613403

          think porsche gt4 cayman/gt3 911 or miata global mx5 cup

          good track cars still hold the same principles today as they did 32 years ago when the e30 m3 was introduced, namely light and nimble with good power
          Agreed...that's why I qualified it by saying "most" modern racing sucks. Some of the touring car series are still pretty cool, and genuinely production based, but I rarely see much of it televised. I kind of enjoy FIA rally events as well.

          But I think series like DTM and Trans Am, that once used production based cars, have seriously lost their way. And I am not sure why, but F1 and the assorted prototype sports car events bore the crap outta me. I would rather watch bowling.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by FredK View Post

            Well, with the DTM E30, for me part of the coolness is that it is based on a production chassis. The DTM M4 probably shares a few fasteners with the roadgoing M4 but the chassis is full monocoque carbon composite, the suspension is pushrod in front and rear, and the curb weight is sub 2500 lbs with driver.

            There was a video a few years ago with the E92 DTM car and the E30 M3 and the E30 was given a 23 second head start and I don't remember how many laps it took to overtake but it probably wasn't that many.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68TDr3GjBZs
            The M4 DTM looks like it;'s playing with it's food in that video.
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