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  • mlytle
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    Originally posted by jimmy p. View Post

    I think thats a great plan. Is that the NJ event also Geoff Atkinson Memorial race weekend as well? If yes that would be a very nice thing.
    yes. that is the one.
    https://njbmwcca.org/event/summit-po...driver-school/

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  • jimmy p.
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    Originally posted by mlytle View Post

    not sure having everything from street cars to modified race cars with novice to experienced race drivers in the same run group would be that much fun.....for a whole day. maybe for one short session for photo ops. rest of day run in groups of similar prep/experience levels at a club event like BMWCCA. if we all just pick a bmwcca event somewhere and sign up it would be a whole lot simpler than trying to carve out a whole run group for a day. then we just need to work on a short lunch parade lap photo op/grid line up picture, common paddock area and end of day Keg of appropriate libations.....

    the New Jersey bmwcca event at summit point in July would be perfect. HPDE/Club Race combo that is traditionally well attended.
    I think thats a great plan. Is that the NJ event also Geoff Atkinson Memorial race weekend as well? If yes that would be a very nice thing.

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  • mlytle
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    Originally posted by jimmy p. View Post
    The key to this ever getting off the ground will be to find a group / club that is open to selling a run group to an outside "non-entity" group, at one of their events, that just happens to be at a destination track.

    So step one is to find a group (or groups) that would be willing to do that, and then look at their schedule and pick one of the tracks / dates, and see if they will do it there.
    Earlier I mentioned Vintage Racer Group because I believe they have done something similar in the past, BUT they do it with established organizations like VDCA, EMRA, BMWCCA CR, etc.
    The hard part for something like this will be that there is no org, no infrastructure, insurance, Motorsport Reg account, etc.

    If we do it as a few have posted, just all push into a sign up at some Club or Chapter's event as entrants, no way will we all end up in the same run group.
    Some of us sure, but all of us never.
    We could of course all paddock together which will be good fun, but if the real hope if for an all E30M3 run group its not going to be an easy thing.

    Its fun to talk about what track will be best, but the daunting thing will be getting a non-established, non-club, all E30M3 run group, comprised of widely varied skill level and prep into "someone's" track day / weekend LOL.
    not sure having everything from street cars to modified race cars with novice to experienced race drivers in the same run group would be that much fun.....for a whole day. maybe for one short session for photo ops. rest of day run in groups of similar prep/experience levels at a club event like BMWCCA. if we all just pick a bmwcca event somewhere and sign up it would be a whole lot simpler than trying to carve out a whole run group for a day. then we just need to work on a short lunch parade lap photo op/grid line up picture, common paddock area and end of day Keg of appropriate libations.....

    the New Jersey bmwcca event at summit point in July would be perfect. HPDE/Club Race combo that is traditionally well attended.

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  • 1990m3
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    I'd like to try and tow in from the midwest, it would be a lot of fun.

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  • HANDBLT
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    Vir?

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  • carspareparts
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    Originally posted by David Pan View Post
    Hello everyone,

    With each passing year, fewer and fewer people are driving their E30 M3 on track (let alone racing it). I barely saw more than a couple E30 M3s this past season at various non-BMW CCA events. That's very unfortunate and a great shame as these cars are meant to be driven to be enjoyed and appreciated. audi a4 for sale

    I am not sure the reasons behind why people are not taking the cars to the track anymore, but I got an idea after attending a couple events at NJMP hosted by Metro Track Addicts (MTA) this year. Almost half of the cars at the MTA events were Honda S2000s which rivals the E30 M3 in vintage. What if I get MTA (or another organization) to host just E30 M3 run groups? How many of you guys would be willing to come out to play in 2020?? The track would most likely be either lightning or Thunderbolt at NJMP. It's a centrally located track in the northeast.

    If you're interested, please reply to this thread. Garage queens need not reply

    This would be epic

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  • jimmy p.
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    The key to this ever getting off the ground will be to find a group / club that is open to selling a run group to an outside "non-entity" group, at one of their events, that just happens to be at a destination track.

    So step one is to find a group (or groups) that would be willing to do that, and then look at their schedule and pick one of the tracks / dates, and see if they will do it there.
    Earlier I mentioned Vintage Racer Group because I believe they have done something similar in the past, BUT they do it with established organizations like VDCA, EMRA, BMWCCA CR, etc.
    The hard part for something like this will be that there is no org, no infrastructure, insurance, Motorsport Reg account, etc.

    If we do it as a few have posted, just all push into a sign up at some Club or Chapter's event as entrants, no way will we all end up in the same run group.
    Some of us sure, but all of us never.
    We could of course all paddock together which will be good fun, but if the real hope if for an all E30M3 run group its not going to be an easy thing.

    Its fun to talk about what track will be best, but the daunting thing will be getting a non-established, non-club, all E30M3 run group, comprised of widely varied skill level and prep into "someone's" track day / weekend LOL.

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  • JS154
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    I vote PittRace or Summit Main. Both great E30M3 tracks

    LCMT - sound, unviable $
    Lime Rock - sound, unviable $
    Palmer, terrible for E30M3, too steep. Also Alpha-N sound can be an issue.
    Watkins Glen, Fvck no, power track. Unless running a firebreathing race S14 not enough power to make the Glen interesting. also literally the WORST S14 rod bearing eating track on the planet.
    NJMP...Big Meh, although Lighting is fun.
    Nelson Ledges, now we're talking. Its been repaved! And they have facilities! A drivers track. FAST!
    Thompson. No, just...no.
    NHMS...very technical track but not popular. Difficult to be very fast around it.
    Mid-Ohio, Absolutely! Great E30M3 track. Short, so lotsa laps.
    Road America. No, other than Daytona, easily THE MOST OVERRATED track in the US. Bring power, leave talent at home. square corners, long uphill straights. BORING. ALso laps take forever ina n E30M3 so you get like 5 per session.

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  • craz azn
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    Originally posted by Mick View Post
    Would an E30M3 run in Group 70+ or Group 90?
    Originally, the group was called just G70+, as a class for 73-89 cars. A few years ago, the BoD decided to create a new class system called G90 (allowing 1990s cars) to help bolster participation numbers. Both G70 and G90 run within the same run group, generally now referred to as ‘Classic’. What’s unique about the Vintage Gran Prix, is they get so many participants for Classic, they had to split the group up into two, and have a group for the faster cars, and a second race for the slower cars. Each group is capped at 40 cars.

    Historically, E30 M3s will run in the faster run group, unless it is super basic, like an old J Stock car.

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  • jimmy p.
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    Originally posted by craz azn View Post

    Yes dude!! You'd be welcome there for sure, without a doubt! Its a great track!

    No, on the 'classic' grid, you can run any tire you want. The tire rules are only for the 'vintage' groups ie pre '72 cars.
    Thanks! All that is exciting. Its not that big a deal because I'm going to have to buy a set of something like that to race with VRG at some point, but why race on those if you can race on real tires LOL.
    I hope the world comes back to life in time for me to get up there.

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  • Mick
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    Would an E30M3 run in Group 70+ or Group 90?

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  • craz azn
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    Originally posted by jimmy p. View Post

    Im 100% interested. If the border is open this summer (and my industry is thinking about going back to work) I am coming to Mosport at least once this summer. I have never been there and have been driving it like an obsessed person on iRacing trying to learn it.
    I have never taken my own personal car & trailer across the border so I need to make sure I have all my ducks in a row for that, but I routinely send 18-20 tractor trailers of gear over & back so I think I can handle it LOL.
    That track seems like so much fun (at least in a SIM).

    EDIT: Fuck is this one of those racing clubs that doesn't allow real racing tires on the racing cars?
    Yes dude!! You'd be welcome there for sure, without a doubt! Its a great track!

    No, on the 'classic' grid, you can run any tire you want. The tire rules are only for the 'vintage' groups ie pre '72 cars.

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  • jimmy p.
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    Originally posted by craz azn View Post
    If any of you guys are interested in actual wheel to wheel racing, we have an annual event up here at Mosport called the Varac Vintage Gran Prix in June. So far, we have three E30 M3s preregistered! Super excited!

    https://varac.ca/2021-varac-vintage-grand-prix/
    Im 100% interested. If the border is open this summer (and my industry is thinking about going back to work) I am coming to Mosport at least once this summer. I have never been there and have been driving it like an obsessed person on iRacing trying to learn it.
    I have never taken my own personal car & trailer across the border so I need to make sure I have all my ducks in a row for that, but I routinely send 18-20 tractor trailers of gear over & back so I think I can handle it LOL.
    That track seems like so much fun (at least in a SIM).

    EDIT: Fuck is this one of those racing clubs that doesn't allow real racing tires on the racing cars?

    APPENDIX B – Tire List
    - The only asymmetrical tires permitted for use in vintage historic classes are :
    Toyo R888R
    Kuhmo Ecsta V700 Pirelli Trofeo R
    Falken Azernis RT615K
    Last edited by jimmy p.; 01-21-2021, 07:38 AM.

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  • Mick
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    That looks like a blast. In my opinion Mosport is the best track in the Northeast.

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  • craz azn
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    If any of you guys are interested in actual wheel to wheel racing, we have an annual event up here at Mosport called the Varac Vintage Gran Prix in June. So far, we have three E30 M3s preregistered! Super excited!

    https://varac.ca/2021-varac-vintage-grand-prix/

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