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  • #61
    Originally posted by MtlAlex View Post

    Interesting, i wonder how many other owners feel that way.

    Do you know what their previous setup was?
    I know one guy had H&R Race and Ground Control at one time. No Idea on the other Gent, met him at Sig and mentioned that he was NOT happy with the KW ride quality.
    I myself have tried Coilovers, H&R sports and Race.
    If I had to choose one I'd go with the Race over all of them.
    Currently have a set of Custom-Made Springs with Bilsteins That took a long time to develop through trial and error But up till now IMO they offer the best ride and road handling of anything on the market. It was an expensive experiment but worth it to me.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by mwagner10702 View Post

      I don't own a set.
      I didn't quite mean it literally haha.
      When Alex (the KW rep) posted up on FB with sets for sale though, they seemed to fly off the shelves (I don't necessarily mean literal shelves lol) so I expected to see lots of reviews. I'm guilty of having piles of parts sitting beside the car as well though, so I can't really criticize. I'd really like a set, but I can't decide if 2k is really an amount I want to spend to adjust my ride height 25mm from where it is now, when I could do many more important things to the car.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Westopher View Post
        I didn't quite mean it literally haha.
        When Alex (the KW rep) posted up on FB with sets for sale though, they seemed to fly off the shelves (I don't necessarily mean literal shelves lol) so I expected to see lots of reviews. I'm guilty of having piles of parts sitting beside the car as well though, so I can't really criticize. I'd really like a set, but I can't decide if 2k is really an amount I want to spend to adjust my ride height 25mm from where it is now, when I could do many more important things to the car.
        I think you answered your own question. "Important Things First". Worry about suspension after the important things are addressed.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by pauliecarzz View Post
          Currently have a set of Custom-Made Springs
          Probably the best of all the solutions IMO. In a perfect world I'd like factory ride quality with about a 25mm lower ride height. I suppose damper valving AND proper shock length / travel would be a large part of a "factory ride quality solution".

          My next suspension experiment will be H&R Race Springs (already on the car) and Koni Sports (8641-1210SPORT) in the front and Koni 8042-1134 in the rear. The rears are intended for the 1994 - 2004 Mustang and have a shorter shock body than the standard rear Koni Sports (80-2522SP1). In addition - and this is the big thing - the rebound is adjustable from the top of the shock vs. the standard Koni shock where the shock has to be removed to be adjusted.

          I had a long discussion with the folks at TC Kline about the rear shocks and their recommendation was to go with the 8042-1134 Koni (it is also double adjustable) as they felt it was a better match with the 570lb rear H&R Race Spring. They felt the standard 80-2522SP1 did not have the proper valving for that spring rate.

          - Mark

          1990 M3

          Usually it's best not to know how much money you have into your M3

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          • #65
            Originally posted by mwagner10702 View Post

            Probably the best of all the solutions IMO. In a perfect world I'd like factory ride quality with about a 25mm lower ride height. I suppose damper valving AND proper shock length / travel would be a large part of a "factory ride quality solution".

            My next suspension experiment will be H&R Race Springs (already on the car) and Koni Sports (8641-1210SPORT) in the front and Koni 8042-1134 in the rear. The rears are intended for the 1994 - 2004 Mustang and have a shorter shock body than the standard rear Koni Sports (80-2522SP1). In addition - and this is the big thing - the rebound is adjustable from the top of the shock vs. the standard Koni shock where the shock has to be removed to be adjusted.

            I had a long discussion with the folks at TC Kline about the rear shocks and their recommendation was to go with the 8042-1134 Koni (it is also double adjustable) as they felt it was a better match with the 570lb rear H&R Race Spring. They felt the standard 80-2522SP1 did not have the proper valving for that spring rate.

            - Mark
            Mark
            Thats Pretty Much what I did, I had the Factory springs tested and increased the rates by a fraction. I lowered the car a bit more than 25mm but played around with spring pads to get the car to sit to my liking. I just had 2 more sets made with one set being .4375" taller. I just couldn't stand the harsh ride that the coilovers provide. These cars don't need to have such stiff suspensions for common road use. Surprisingly besides the fantastic ride the car handles perfect and dips into the turns better than stock.

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            • #66
              saying "i had coilovers" or "the harsh ride of coilovers" is completely pointless.

              M3's come stock with a coilover suspension. coilover just means the coil is wrapped over the damper. :-)

              a suspension with an ADJUSTABLE SPRING PERCH is generally refered to as a coilover. that setup can have any spring rate and damper combination. soft, hard, normal, street, track, race. suspensions with adjustable spring perches are not "harsh" unless someone didn't match rates with the desired application. the big advantage of the setup is that a huge selection spring rates and heights are available off the shelf, without having to have custom springs made.
              88 M3 Henna
              95 M3 Orange
              97 M3 Techno

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              • #67
                Originally posted by mlytle View Post
                saying "i had coilovers" or "the harsh ride of coilovers" is completely pointless.
                Correct me if im wrong but everyone was referring to coilovers as the available coilovers option in the after market.

                ei: i got a set of GC coilovers vs me who simply got bilstein shocks with h&r springs.

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