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    Does anybody make or has anybody considered making an ABS delete type kit for our car? I was curious as I am seriously thinking about removing ABS from the car altogether. Thanks![peace]

  • #2
    Not worth it on a street car IMHO, and to play devils advocate.... if you ever got into an accident and were at question of being at fault, do you want them to use that as a potential point against you?

    :huh:
    Chris L.

    Spray paint and tire shine doesn't equate to a "restoration!"

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    • #3
      Why would they ever question whether or not you had ABS and how could they prove that...that would have either saved you from crashing and or avoid the crash? Does anybody make a kit to delete the ABS?

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      • #4
        why do you want to remove it? you can easily wire up a switch to disable it
        James
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        • #5
          I have never heard of an ABS delete kit. It would not be a huge deal to do it, as long as you have a selection of brake pipes and are willing to do the bending (not hard).

          I thought about removing mine, but opted instead for the "fog light switch converted to ABS cut off switch" approach.

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          • #6
            I was thinking of doing away with the unit for ha..ha's. I mean, I don't want to use or run ABS so I figured get rid of altogether. I was able to find this link posted by Mick:

            http://www.s14.net/forums/showthread...3384#post13384

            I assume that this is the disabling switch that you guys are speaking of?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ///Mflossin View Post
              I was thinking of doing away with the unit for ha..ha's. I mean, I don't want to use or run ABS so I figured get rid of altogether. I was able to find this link posted by Mick:

              http://www.s14.net/forums/showthread...3384#post13384

              I assume that this is the disabling switch that you guys are speaking of?
              correct. however this only works if your car is equipped with an over voltage relay (mine is not). adding a switch to mine is slightly more difficult. but i decided to fix my ABS and am glad i did. our cars have an old 3-channel system, but it can still do a better job than i can in a panic situation
              James
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              • #8
                If anyone does get rid of thier ABS system I would be interested in buying it
                thanks MIke

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                • #9
                  I did this. As someone mentioned all you need is the correct length of brake line. It turns out that BMW sells many different lengths but you'll need two, a short one for the LF and a longer on for the RF. Look up the part numbers on the part CD, I don't have them handy and it was 4 years ago. The RF is a small PITA but I got the old one out and the new one without damage. The ABS pump and associated wiring can all be removed without cutting/breaking anything in case you want to put them back.

                  While I was at it, I also replaced the stock rear brake proportioning valve with and adjustable valve again using BMW lines and the stock tie down locations. HTH- Jim

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                  • #10
                    How much weight did it remove from the car??

                    My Lancer Evolution RS does not have ABS and have always wondered the weight savings:lostme: I understand the difference, of course:thank you
                    '88 M3 2.3 Henna (Sold)
                    '00 A4 2.8 Avant
                    '06 Evo 2.0 IX RS

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                    • #11
                      I dunno, I hate to sound socialist but I think removing ABS on a car that is largely street driven is almost irresponsible. We all might think we are Michael Schumacher, but in a true panic/high stress stopping situation very few people are going to be able to avoid complete 4 wheel lockup, particularly in wet conditions, without the ABS.

                      The problem is, there is really no way to practice braking under high stress, when adrenalin surges and the body functions differently than when "calm". I would wager even Michael Schumacher would have 4 wheel lockup.

                      If we were just endangering ourselves, that would be OK. BUT.........

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ironhead View Post
                        I dunno, I hate to sound socialist but I think removing ABS on a car that is largely street driven is almost irresponsible. We all might think we are Michael Schumacher, but in a true panic/high stress stopping situation very few people are going to be able to avoid complete 4 wheel lockup, particularly in wet conditions, without the ABS.

                        The problem is, there is really no way to practice braking under high stress, when adrenalin surges and the body functions differently than when "calm". I would wager even Michael Schumacher would have 4 wheel lockup.

                        If we were just endangering ourselves, that would be OK. BUT.........
                        I guess that I just don't see it that way. I view ABS as more of an option than anything. My father's hot rod doesn't have ABS...I wouldn't say that he's irresponsible for not equipping the car with ABS to bring it up to the more modern standard. I would, personally, rather have complete control over the car. This is not to insinuate that I am Michael Schumacher...just that I am a control freak.:huh:

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ///Mflossin View Post
                          I guess that I just don't see it that way. I view ABS as more of an option than anything. My father's hot rod doesn't have ABS...I wouldn't say that he's irresponsible for not equipping the car with ABS to bring it up to the more modern standard. I would, personally, rather have complete control over the car. This is not to insinuate that I am Michael Schumacher...just that I am a control freak.:huh:
                          I understand what you are saying, that is why I said "almost" irresponsible. I was really just running down the thought process that led to me leaving my ABS in place. I know, through hard experience, that I am a better "street" driver with it than without it. Thats all.

                          Sorry if it sounded like I was trying to force my opinion on you. Not my intent.

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                          • #14
                            I'm not sure if it's the same wire, but on my car (88) I disable ABS by interrupting the brake switch. One of the wires is the ABS and the other is the brake lights. I wired a toggle panel. I can choose the horn button to kill the brake lights when held. A switch can toggle off the ABS by itself or with the brake lights when directed through the horn button. This is all possible with a few simple relays, one in normally closed position.
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                            • #15
                              I would GUESS that everything weighed about 10 pounds. My car is primarily intended for the track. The other thing to be aware of is that the ABS systems in our cars are designed/calibrated for a specific set of conditions such as tire diameter, grip, braking effectiveness, suspension characteristics, etc. It is not clear to me that, except for cars that are bone stock, the ABS is still working as intended. - Jim

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