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  • Oil pump

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    While installing my pan baffle, I found
    my oil pump chain has quite a bit of slack, so instead of just shimming I think I will replace the pump (it could be orig & why not since I am there)
    Did a search, pump torque 16 lbs torque, shim till sprocket just goes on, pan TQ to 7 ft lbs. etc.
    Question is, why don't the shims show up on the parts list?

    http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...19&hg=11&fg=30


    Where's a good place to buy an OEM pump?
    Is there one brand to stay away from?
    Who was the orig OEM CO?

    Rebuilding looks to be about the same $$$ as buying new.

    Any detailed write ups with pic's on pump replacement?
    Any xtra tips etc?

    Thanks
    Last edited by NSXM3; 07-31-2007, 06:50 PM.

  • #2
    Hi Mark. Item 15 are the shims you want. I bought a genuine BMW oil pump from Bimmerworld but I can't seem to find it on their website at the moment. Turner has them listed for $137. Go with BMW only, don't bother with alternatives or ebay specials.

    Jake

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    • #3
      You are still going to have to shim the new pump.

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      • #4
        Thanks Jake, all I saw was "spacer plate" some how missed the "0,100MM"

        Bruce- I know, just thought since it would be in my hand
        why not go back with new?

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        • #5
          Be extra careful when you insert the pump in. I crushed 3 rubber o-rings before I finally got it in. Y
          Because anything worth doing is worth doing fanatically!
          Born date 01/88
          Ryan

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          • #6
            And you found this out after the install? Yikes!

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            • #7
              For some reason, I keep pulled it off a few times and every time, I found the rubber o-ring crushed. Do a practice insert it in so you get a feel of it.
              Because anything worth doing is worth doing fanatically!
              Born date 01/88
              Ryan

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              • #8
                A friend installed a new pump and after a bit on track the pump came apart. I would take out all the bolts that hold it together and locktite them.

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                • #9
                  Picked up a new pump last night at MESA performance, as its local.
                  Paid $180.00 ouch! (But didnt want to wait a week for shipping)

                  http://www.mesaperformance.com/


                  The pump I ordered was 114 1 286 493
                  The part I picked up was 1141 1 267 383
                  Was told this pump has been superseded several times.
                  (Saw it on their screen with my own eyes)
                  Was told it was the right one. It does look the same, anyone
                  intimately familiar with the pump part number changes?
                  Thought I would ask prior to installing tonight.
                  Thanks
                  Last edited by NSXM3; 08-02-2007, 02:24 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by NSXM3 View Post
                    Picked up a new pump last night at MESA performance, as its local.
                    Paid $180.00 ouch! (But didnt want to wait a week for shipping)

                    http://www.mesaperformance.com/


                    The pump I ordered was 114 1 286 493
                    The part I picked up was 1141 1 267 383
                    Was told this pump has been superseded several times.
                    (Saw it on their screen with my own eyes)
                    Was told it was the right one. It does look the same, anyone
                    intimately familiar with the pump part number changes?
                    Thought I would ask prior to installing tonight.
                    Thanks
                    11411267383 was superceded by 11411286493.

                    List on 11411286493 is $485 (OEM BMW), so for $180 (if it is indeed an OEM), I'd say you did pretty good.

                    FWIW, I would not use anything but an OEM BMW oil pump-

                    As Bruce said, make sure all the 10MM nuts that hold the case together are tight-

                    Don McAdams
                    1988 E30 M3
                    "E30 M3 Owner & Enthusiast"

                    www.McAdamsAutoSport.com

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                    • #11
                      Do what Bruce mentions above. The 2 main casting pieces that are held together with all the bolts came apart on me at Barber. This was a new, selaed in the bag pump from BMW.

                      One other guy down here also dropped his pan to chekc his and found his bolts were on only finger tight as well. Could have been a bad batch, but still...easy to check before you install.


                      Nick

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bruce View Post
                        A friend installed a new pump and after a bit on track the pump came apart. I would take out all the bolts that hold it together and locktite them.
                        I absolutely second this. Don't ass_u_me all the bolts are tight right out of the box!

                        -Luis

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                        • #13
                          Any one know who BMW used to make their pumps for them?
                          The one I bought is stamped Germany, forget the actual name but is a division of Bilstein. Looks like a super quality pump. Came in a sealed / oiled bag. Not sure if its from BMW as they are as mentioned almost $500.00
                          Instructions in the box are OK but not that detailed. It was tested & flow rate checked prior to shipping.
                          Thanks for the tip on pump case bolts.
                          Plan to R&R today after work.
                          So, I might be back if I have any questions.
                          This board is very helpfull with lots of knowlege!
                          :thank you

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                          • #14
                            ok, aborting the install.
                            The new pump is not an exact match and does not have a large visable spring in the casing above the pick up like the installed pump.
                            The box is marked Febi - Bilstein, West Germany.
                            This is probably an aftermarket pump? Might work fine, but the installed
                            pump works for sure........

                            This is probably the same pump that is selling for 129-139 on the Web.
                            So many recomendations here on using an OEM pump, will skip it for now.

                            Thanks again.:lostme:

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                            • #15
                              I have been using Febi pumps on several cars and never had problems. My racecar's M10 has a Febi. No problem. The M10 and S14 pumps are similar, except for the oil pick-up extension.


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                              1969 2002 racecar
                              1989 M3 racecar
                              e39 Touring

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