///m3 E30 Sport Evo In Greece

[m_power_lunatic]

Hello there everybody,i have a question and i would like someone to help me out here.Here in Greece ///M3 E30s is a rare sight and it was never imported officially by ΒΜW itself.Most of the ///M3 E3Os are selfimported cars.My question now.....i managed to find a genuine SPORT EVO-red coloured without sunroof and no A/C very rare as you know-BUT there is a big problem apparently.....the VIN NUMBERS have been changed in the past with vin numbers from another non-M BMW car,please dont ask why and how and dont doubt that if its genuine or not.Is there any way to find out which was the original VIN NUMBER????????

Thank you in advance for your answers!!

[Marco]

Do SE's have a numbered plaque like Evo 2s? If so, you could work it out from that.

If not, what about engine number?

[hardtailer]

post the engine number and the number next to VIN below the driver's side windscreen wiper.

to find the engine number look here:

http://www.s14.net/forums/showpost.php?p=131019&postcount=2

but apart from that, since it no longer has a Sportevo VIN, per definition it no longer is an original Sportevo...

[fritzjuan]

wasn't there also a thread that showed where a letter "E" would be stamped to denote it was an EVO model? Is this the same location? I kinda remember you needed a mirror to see it.

[Evolution]

Some Evo 3's came with a plaque and some did not, But they where not numbered plaques

Wasn't the letter ''E'' stapmed on engine blocks of evo 2 models?....

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Wouldn t you find a VIN # on the paper work of the car?

If it is a sport evo, There are many tell tail signs, Paint color, seats, engine, spoilers etc etc, Wouldnt be hard to find out..

[hardtailer]

the E stamped below intake 4 on the cilinder head was to denote the Evo1 models (200PS, no kat, not discernable from stock M3's other than by VIN and this stamped E)
The arrow in the picture points at the surface where the engine serial number and engine code are stamped.

BTW, you can check whether you have at least a Sportevo crank by feeling if there's a bolt (=2.5 crank) or a nut (=2.3l crank) inside the crank pulley.

[Markus]

some points that you can check:

1) EVO3 don't have an extra fuel tank in the trunk
2) EVO3 don't have an passenger handle
3) check the rearglasses they are thinner and it is a stamp 3.0 on them
4) check the instrument cluster they have a 60l fuel gauge and no front fog light symbol
5) th rear view mirror is without map lights

from the underside you can check:

rear diff ratio must be 3,15
drive shaft is thinner then the normal ones
besides the cat are 2 reinforcements
there is a metal cat (2x) with no cover around

Markus

[PostmasterNY]

HELLA MALAKA!

I just moved from Athens last year. I lived near Pentelli in Vrilissia........I sure do miss the beaches and food.

I saw 1 e30 m3 the 2 years i spent in Greece......it was yellow.

[stevesingo]

The last 7 digits of the VIN should be AC79000-AC79599.

Steve

[m3nally]

Does it by any chance have its original service book? The VIN should be on the inside cover.

It was obviously imported, do you have the documentation or registration document from the country it was imported from. That should show the VIN. I guess the VIN was changed to save money/ tax somewhere along the line.

[OnrailsM3]

Probably re-vinned cause it was stolen from another country, if the tags and title are clean in Greece then leave well enough alone knowing you have a genuine EVO with a some dirt on her. Just transfer whatever paperwork it comes with that matches the vin in the window and register it. Once it's in the system, it's legit.

I wouldn't be looking too hard for that car's past if it was re-vinned and hiding out in Greece.

If you really have to know, there might be a build sheet under the rear seat. Push in about 3-5 inches from the end on the bottom front edge on each side to unclip it and lift.

There should be vin tags on the front fenders, hood, trunk, doors, firewall and radiator support, none of those are there?

[hardtailer]

There should be vin tags on the front fenders, hood, trunk, doors, firewall and radiator support, none of those are there?

no VIN tags on non-US models...

[CMEVO3]

The VIN should be stamped into the metal near the center of lower part of front windshield.

In the door jamb there should be a metal plate with the production date and an E3 designation.

Chet

[the_scotsman]

The VIN should be stamped into the metal near the center of lower part of front windshield.

In the door jamb there should be a metal plate with the production date and an E3 designation.

Chet

My Sport does not have the metal plate, anyone else?

Paul

[hardtailer]

so m_power_lunatic, how about posting the engine number and the number stamped towards the driver's side of the car, next to the VIN (in the middle of the scuttle)