E30 s14 turbo conversions who else?

[Lumanikus]

Hey Andrew,
any more pics of the blue M? I think those are disscontinued Hamman wheels on it. I didnt think those would work.

[Lumanikus]

Hey Andrew,
any more pics of the blue M? I think those are disscontinued Hamman wheels on it. I didnt think those would work.

[hlmflyer]

Not an s14 motor but interesting e30 M3 600 bhp? for sale on Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=250016591089&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

[AndrewG]

Hey guys, i came across this forum by a url link in Martin's car review seen in the UK Performance BMW.
I believe turboing a car for that would be easy if you have the tools/ equipment to do so.
I've seen a video of a black Volvo in sweden putting out about 560PS, it was friggin amazing for a $2200 job!

Have any of you been to the PPF forum? It's all in Swedish but the forum is full of young guys expoilting power from barviarian engines. And yer, most of them do it all in there own garages. And personally, i don't think these swedish people have ever seen a turbo smaller than a Basket Ball :2:

963ps 950Nm S38B38 engined M3: Andreas rules!

http://www.pure-pf.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=37&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

700PS E30 game

http://www.pure-pf.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1895&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

M3E30 S14 turbo

http://www.pure-pf.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=581

Replica M3 turbo

[url]http://www.pure-pf.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=582/[url]

E30 turbo

http://www.pure-pf.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=46

Biturbo E30

http://www.pure-pf.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3146

http://www.pure-pf.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=5c04ff0d9e982a1b4f8d69543e62a6cf

[martybee58]

Yeah it was this one that rolled. Doh.

Its a TPS i found in a scrap yard. I found it on a volvo (440 I think) but I have got a spare off a vauxhall (GM) car. I've got a laser cut adaptor plate so it bolts straight up. PM me if you want one.

[pondhopper]

Curious as to which TPS you used?

Nice turbo! setup! I can't imagine how hot it must get on the exhaust side... I'm scared to ask but is this the same car & driver that did 3 1/2 rolls this weekend?
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Looking at doing an ECU switch also. Which TPS and where did you get it from? Was it a straight bolt-in? pondhopper

[Dtm1992#43]

just curious..how many people that started responding to this thread with things like "turbo for that price? no way!" have actually done any turbo stuff in their life other than talking about it?

in europe bmw turbo kits from mosselman for the 4 cil. engines cost about 1800 pounds...1450 is no bullshit for a homebuilt turbo kit the way he did it.

i've turbo-ed several different cars both with aftermarket turbo kits and "home made" stuff..the price depends on the power you want, where you buy the parts, who you know,and what you can make yourself.
like putting the megasquirt system together yourself instead of buying a ready kit, building a suitable turbo from parts instead of buying a modified one.
writing cnc programmes and making cad drawings yourself saves a shitload of money if you need to have stuff machined or lasercut from a company (saves them loads of time so you only pay material and machine running costs)
constructing a manifold from st38 instead of stainless steel(who needs stainless if st38 does the job?)
even if you go for stainless steel the flanges can be bought dead cheap from the right sources.

i guess the biggest problem is the prices you guys in the usa pay for this stuff and people going for fancy shiny stuff instead of usefull stuff (like aeroquip hoses,racing dumpvalves, stainless steel,full alloy intercoolers)

[GermanjunK]

I've just scanned the article on this car that was in Performance BMW Mag in the 3/6/06 issue. I posted the links in another thread but figured they should go on this one as well since this thread actually helped inspire the article.
I left the pics big so you could still read the text, so I'm just posting links to save load time.

Note: The pics are numbered backwards by mistake, so just click in shown order.

http://www.germanjunk.com/images/M3turboArticle_7.jpg

http://www.germanjunk.com/images/M3turboArticle_6.jpg

http://www.germanjunk.com/images/M3turboArticle_5.jpg

http://www.germanjunk.com/images/M3turboArticle_4.jpg

http://www.germanjunk.com/images/M3turboArticle_3.jpg

http://www.germanjunk.com/images/M3turboArticle_2.jpg

http://www.germanjunk.com/images/M3turboArticle_1.jpg

Enjoy

[martybee58]

Of course an external wastegate can be added. There is enough room for the extra pipe. I'd like to do this to mine eventually and run a really small turbine housing and a huge wastegate so it'll spool up at like 1500RPM.

[CeeP]

So any updates? Is there anyway you could run this with an external wastegate?

[project86]

I almost bought an RX7 FD3S I believe, it was a 94 but it needed a rebuild. I missed it by a day and ended up going with the M3. I am glad that I did as I love my M3 but those turbo rotaries are very interesting. The M3 was my first choice but when I couldn't find any for about 2 years I started looking at other possibilities and I found a cheap RX7 that would have been pretty cool.

[project86]

The 50mm throttles are hard to find so when I found some down the street I swooped them up. They will be cluttering my room for awhile along with a lot of other parts until I am ready to rebuild and have everything that I need.

[martybee58]

The compression ratio is 8.7:1 with a 2mm decomp plate although Ferriday can make decomp plates up to 5mm thick for silly boost situations.

If its the BOV sound that will give you away have you thought about a recirculating one? this will be really quiet.

Its a T3 flange on the manifold. i could weld on anything but i'd rather not as a bigger turbo might not fit. If i had a t4 to try on my car i could confirm this.

The kit can be payed by Paypal to me personally. Although I'm currently toying with the idea of setting up a small business selling custom* bits and pieces.

*custom as in one off turbo manifolds etc NOT chrome wheels and under car neons!!!!

[Sbailey294]

86-
I love turbos, and I’m all ready looking for another RX7 to add to the stable but trust me...when you hear what an NA car with ITBs sounds like...ha Blow off valves become a Ricer memory.

Are the 50mms goin’ on now or after the engine is built?

-Martybee
How would someone go about buying this kit? Would it be Paypal to a shop or yourself? Explain a bit. What is the output flange for the manifold (sorry if I missed that)

[project86]

Yes I am from California, which is brutal. My dad has pretty much convinced me to steer clear of the turbo and go NA so that it will be easier to make the engine look stock. At least I won't have a big turbo sticking out, thats a little obvious. I really wanted to do a turbo but I right now it looks like a no go. I just bought some 50mm throttles though, so my NA build is starting and thats still exciting. I believe that Martin is running 8.7:1 compression with his decomp plate to answer your question Brendan. He has a very nice and inexpensive setup. Some of the prices for NA motor stiff, like DTM heads and cam kits make me cry. I have to work at my job for like 3 months just to buy a bare head! Its crazy, the turbo would have been a lot cheaper but I guess I would rather not have the cops hounded me everytime they hear the blow off valve. Oh well.